I’ve been so caught up in the move and all that entails (the bad, the ugly, the worse, the “do I have to take my children with me because they are behaving like rotten beasts?”), I haven’t blogged about my breasts in at least five minutes.
And this is not about breastfeeding, per se, so if I have any male readers besides my husband (do I?), feel free to turn away now. I mean, you don’t have to; it’s a free internet and you might learn something.
After complaining about my bra situation for many, many months, I finally took advantage of being child-free for whole hours at a time (thank you, camp!) and went to a fancy, schmancy bra store. I am normally the opposite of fancy, but this was necessary. Back in the day, when I was a B cup and my parents paid my bills, I used to shop at a certain mall store that hosts a primetime special on CBS. I never felt particularly sexy or womanly, and I never sprouted angel wings, which would have been SO COOL, but the bras seemed to fit and were all priced in the neighborhood of $30-$35.
Now I cannot shop there. Nursing has changed me, by which I mean I don’t have the volume I once did. This mall store does not seem to believe in the A cup; rather, they don’t seem to believe that anyone actually wants to BE an A cup, so absolutely everything in the store in “smaller” sizes is padded. I stopped looking there. I also couldn’t find anything at the Hanes-Bali-Playtex outlet.
So a friend pointed me to a place in Manhattan. Said friend grew up in Manhattan and just knows things. It’s on the Upper East Side, and I? Am so not that type. I wore sneakers today–this turned out to be the smartest thing ever–and frankly I don’t own strappy sandals OR nail polish of any kind. My husband cuts my hair. I could go on, but won’t. Every time I even visit the UES it feels like I am about to be shown the door. (The shabby chic of the Upper West Side is what I aspire to on my best day. A day during which I’ve showered and matched my top to my skirt AND my hat.)
First I had to find parking. Which I did, five blocks away. (Pretty miraculous.) It was only one hour parking. (This is all there was, because I did not have a prayer of finding parking on the numbered streets, especially because I had the minivan. I did not even try.) I didn’t even notice that the one hour was costing me $1.50 in quarters because I was so worried that an hour wasn’t going to be enough.
I get to the store and ask for help. “Do you have an appointment?” Uhhhh, no. They tell me they can take me in 15 minutes. Mental calculation. I am invited to look at the merchandise, which includes some sale items of various bras, underpants, lingerie items. And some of these things cost more, on sale, than the worth of all of my shoes combined. So I get nervous.
I had to fill out a questionnaire before my bra fitting, explaining what I am looking for.
I snoop around looking at lingerie, wondering if there is anything I can possible imagine myself wearing or buying (gak! the prices!). I check my watch obsessively. Finally I say to a clerk stacking underpants that I am going to go feed my meter. She blinks, as if I’ve told her that the martians are coming to get me. (Perhaps “feed the meter” is code for “I cannot afford to shop here” and she’s authorized to lock me out.) “I’m coming right back! I promise!”
Note to stores on Madison Avenue: valet parking would be really, really helpful. I have never used valet parking at a store, but the parking situation on the Upper East Side is SO awful.
I dash to the car and back, buying myself an extra half hour and getting all sweaty in the process. Because who doesn’t want to try on bras when they’re feeling hot and uncomfortable?
But then I meet Stephanie. Stephanie turns out to be the heroine in this story. She asks if I’ve had a fitting before, where my bras are from. Ha!
Basically, in a nutshell: The Target dog is my bra fitter. I wear nursing tanks almost exclusively (although sometimes C9 sports bras!) because any bra that I’ve owned in the past 10 years does not fit me.
I get a spiel about how they don’t use tape measures, they just assess by looking. Fine, whatever. Stephanie is apparently expecting me to be a little more shy, but really, as has been established in the past, I will flash just about anybody. (Although there was not a nursling in sight, so I should have been more careful. I suppose.)
“I’ll bring you some 32s,” Stephanie says, “and if those don’t work we have 30s.”
“They make 30s?” I’m floored, really. How could I be a petite and not know that?
Suddenly things start to go right. Bras fit. They feel good. Stephanie brings me a camisole to try over one, and I have a silhouette. It’s petite, but wow, I feel like a person. Not like a hag, not like I’ve been up most nights this month until 2 in the morning (true!), but like a real woman with real breasts, nicely proportioned for ME and my size.
(Oh, if I could go grab my 16 year old self for five minutes and shake her out of those huge sweatshirts and put her in a real bra and make her stand up straight it would make me so happy. Sigh. /digression)
I spent a lot of money in this place, but I think it’s all for the best. I found a brand that fits me perfectly that I didn’t know existed. I feel like I finally am giving my breasts their due. They’ve done a lot for me and my family these past five years and deserve some respect. The Target dog can go back to the dollar spot; Stephanie is my bra fitter now.
AND? I ran like a bat out of hell when I was finished and made it to my car with three minutes to spare. Because spending an extra $60 on this day? Would have been even harder to explain than the American Express bill.

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July 8, 2009 at 3:54 pm
persephone
Didn’t want to try Town Shop? Or already did and weren’t happy?
I got used to $50 bras years ago, when I finally admitted to myself that I needed support more than I needed cheap. But I was still pretty dissatisfied with the results. At my first fitting post-weaning, the nice Town Shop lady found me two bras that were perfect; one was even PRETTY. Shocking. I haven’t had a pretty bra since I was 13.
Great, I said, I’ll take each one in 2 colors. But they only had the pretty one in 1 color. Okay, I said sadly, I’ll just take the 3 then.
When I get to the cash register, I discover I have somehow forgotten all about a little thing called prices, and the pretty one? Is $100. Dude, I came thisclose to spending $300 on 4 bras. Because I know I would have been too embarrassed to give it back at the counter.
In the meantime, it seems the nice fitting room lady has discovered the same thing. She comes back and says, solicitously, Did you still want that bra in another color? Because you know, we can always special order it for you. – Oh that’s okay, thank you. – No really, it’s no trouble. – No really, I’m FINE.
Hee hee.
July 8, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Kate
My trusted Manhattan source has been to both and recommended this one. I got three. Two were on sale. (“Sale.”) One was…not and I cannot believe I spent this much money on an undergarment. (But it is completely awesome and can even be used as a nursing bra in a pinch.) And I don’t even have it yet because they didn’t have it in the color I wanted–they are shipping it to me from another store.
July 8, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Phantom Scribbler
Nodding vigorously. I’m telling you, the discovery of the 32-inch band size has changed. my. life.
Also, on the subject of being willing to flash just about anybody, yesterday at Historical Tourist Attraction, one of the docents in the Wamponoag homesite was nursing while answering tourists’ questions. I told my husband afterwards, “Wow, I’ve nursed in some pretty extreme situations, but public speaking while nursing is some kind of off-the-scale impressive.”
July 8, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Cloud
This post made me smile. I’m on the larger side, and therefore used to dropping insane amounts of money on really small garments. But it is a hard thing to get used to. Even my nursing bras cost $50. And I’ll be buying new ones for the new baby, because the old ones don’t really do anything anymore.
For what its worth, I once had a snooty salesperson in that same mall store inform me that women my size didn’t want bras like the one I was trying to buy. Apparently, no woman with a D cup wants to look sexy.
It will be interesting to see what size I am when all this reproducing and nursing is done!
July 8, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Alison
I feel you! Finally splurged on a few new expensive bras last year and felt immediately like a new woman. Even walked around the house for a few hours when I got home without a shirt on, just to enjoy the new view! I love my 32, didn’t know that they made 30’s, may have to go back and try that, since I’m on the last set of hooks.
Did they tell you to give a bra 24 hours off after you wear it for a day, to let the elastic go back? And also to replace them every 9-12 months? Um, yeah, if I am going to spend that much money on a bra I’m going to milk it for what it’s worth (please excuse the pun) and wear the thing until the elastic starts snapping – like all my other old cheaper bras!
July 8, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Kate
Alison, they didn’t tell me that, but they did tell me that Woolite (and any other detergent with alcohol) is the Kryptonite of bras. Who knew? Apparently my dear old mom has it totally wrong!
July 8, 2009 at 7:16 pm
micaela
well, I don’t think it’s fair that nursing has made you smaller, when I get to stay the same huge cup size post-breastfeeding as I was while nursing… I was a D-cup before I got pregnant with my first, so you can imagine where I’m at now! I loved your story tho. How it made me miss NYC!!! And yes, you totally deserve the bras you bought.
On a totally unrelated note, (and I know this is a weird question but please humor me) what category of dietary meat would raccoon be? as in, would you be able to eat it? or would it belong with pork and lobster on the no-no list? This is a purely intellectual exercise here, because I tend to obsess about anything food and eating-related but I don’t know enough about the kashrut “rules”. I promise I don’t plan to send you a field-dressed ‘coon for your “Farewell to America” dinner.
July 8, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Kate
In order for 4 legged animals to be kosher, they must have cloven (split) hooves and chew their cud. (Cows have both, so ok. Deer: both, so ok. Pigs do not chew their cud, so not ok.) So raccoons, definitely no on the first point. Not sure about the second, but it’s irrelevant; answer is no.
Shellfish is a different category, namely that kosher fish must have fins and scales. So lobster and pork are each not allowed, but based on different biblical verses.
July 8, 2009 at 7:34 pm
micaela
thanks Kate! I did remember that pig & lobster belonged to different categories but lumped them together in my question for the sake of brevity, LOL. We’ve watched a few survival shows lately and I was just pondering how the whole survivalist thing would work if one keeps kosher. But that has nothing to do with this post, and it’s mostly an interesting mind exercise for me, so it’s neither here nor there. I should go read up on the “rules” and leave you to your packing
July 9, 2009 at 7:42 am
parisienne mais presque
Any chance you could share the brand you found? I thought I was the only one who went from B to A after nursing. Not that I am complaining, but bra shopping is a bit more complicated now.
Oh, and I spend my mornings in the Metro comparing my slightly-too-sensible footwear to everyone else’s cute, strappy sandals. I haven’t owned any nail polish since 2003, when I threw out my last bottles of it in disgust after admitting I didn’t really know how to use it.
July 9, 2009 at 3:01 pm
4daughters
I want to see pictures
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July 9, 2009 at 9:33 pm
caramama
One of the best pieces of advice I’ve gotten from my mom (and there have been some great ones cause she’s a smart woman) is that it’s worth spending money on truly good shoes and good bras. She is so right because those two items support so much of the body.
That mall store does not have many bras in my larger size and, as Cloud noted, they are not the pretty ones, AND their sales people rarely size people correctly. I go to a specialty lingerie store in an expensive area outside of DC (Bethesda for those who know it), and it’s so fantastic. Getting correctly measured would be worth it alone, but the great brands, the ability to find everyday bras and pretty bras, and the excellent customer service really make it wonderful. But best of all is going home with well-fitting, supportive bras in the right size.
All this talk of good-fitting bras makes me realize I need to get back to that store and get some new nursing bras. The ones I have are completely shot and leaving my back sore by the end of the day.
Oh, and you have to get the special detergent to hand wash the good bras. As you’ve said, Woolite won’t do. And it really is worth it to hand wash!
July 12, 2009 at 9:17 pm
electriclady
I need to get back to either Town Shop or the UES place–the bras I got on my last Town Shop excursion are all worn out and sad. You know where else has great bras for small and small-breasted women? Japan. I have two great bras I got in Tokyo 10 years ago (and wear only rarely to justify the $$$$ spent). But that’s not exactly practical for frequent shopping.
July 13, 2009 at 6:29 am
LC
So glad to hear that other people/other upscale lingerie stoes really DO know how to size. The one time I tried (not NYC or DC), I was sorely annoyed at the end, and got pushed into buying 2 bras in non-existent sizes – read that, ‘we’ll alter them for you, and they’ll be perfect’. NOT! And of course, non refundable after the alterations.
July 14, 2009 at 7:29 am
michaela
I third (or whatever) the amazing discovery of the 32-inch band… this when I thought I needed a 36. I just did the fancy-bra shopping last weekend and was absolutely gobsmacked at the size they put me in… but now I can’t stop ogling myself (in a good way).